Wednesday, 08 February 2012
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Gay Marriage is for Everyone
Recently there's been a lot of people who oppose gay marriage, who then claim the government shouldn't be involved in regulating or defining marriage. Fine. That's a legitimate point of view, I suppose. But there are problems with using that line of reasoning to prevent gay marriage from becoming legal.

1) the first thing you need to understand is this: you don't have ownership of the word marriage. Whoever you are, whatever your little group of ideologues are, they don't OWN the word marriage. Sorry. Marriage, as a term, can be defined as lots of things. Colloquially, marriage can refer to a mixture of any two or more elements: a marriage of jazz and pop music. It can be a close union of ideas. It can be the king and queen of the same suit in a game of cards. Whatever YOUR idea of marriage is, is not the only definition for it. You don't own the word. You don't get to dictate its sole definition.
2) marriage, in the eyes of the government, is a legal agreement. It's a business contract. All the benefits legally accrued from that state-recognized contract relate to this: tax incentives, next-of-kin benefits, public assistance benefits, insurance benefits, wage benefits, consent benefits, etc. All of these are non-religious and non-specific benefits granted to individuals within the arrangement of marriage. This (and not romance, not true love, not a fairy-tale ending) is what marriage is to the state.
"You don't own the word marriage. I do." - the Mushy Pear
So keeping these two things in mind, I think it becomes obvious that "marriage" as a legal contract between individuals, recognized by the state, should be made available for everybody. Furthermore, there's no reason why the term marriage shouldn't be applied to that contract. In fact, there's a good reason why it SHOULD be: if it's going to be applied to heterosexual unions, it should be applied to all unions; separate but equal doesn't work well. Uniformity benefits everybody here, terminology-wise.
So if you think the state has no business being involved in regulating or defining marriage, that's fine. That's your choice. The solution? Don't let them define or regulate your marriage. If you don't want the state involved, how about you go to your local church/temple/mosque/basement, have your favourite holy person/parental figure pronounce you married, and be done with it. If you don't want the state involved in your relationship, don't invite them in. It's as simple as that.
Now, if you say to me, "yeah, but we want all the legal and tax benefits of marriage! We need that state-recognized contract!" Then bam, right there, you're demonstrating why marriage contracts, as offered by the state, need to be available to everybody. In a democracy, everybody gets the same legal rights under the law. Simple as that. By refusing to allow the state to extend the rights and privileges of the marriage contract to certain individuals, you are denying them the right to equality in society.
And yes, American society has a loooooong history of doing just that, but it sure don't make it just, and it don't make it right.
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I believe in the right of any two consenting adults to form contracts with one another. The rest is the domain of the church as far as I'm concerned and not my problem.
Here in Washington, we are hovering on the brink of becoming the seventh state to legalize same sex marriage. All that is left is for the governor to sign the bill, which she has already pledged to do. Shazam!
But if you let gay people marry, then that means I have to marry my fish and make my plant my second wife, but third husband. DON'T YOU SEE THE SLOPE? IT GETS SLIPPERY!!!
You're coming across all serious.
Inevitably this is going to become legalized so I don't even see what all the fuss is about.
I grieve for this country.
I really can't believe this is still an issue, in two-thousand-friggin'-twelve. I'd be down with every consenting adult offered the same contract, or no one being offered the contract. Either way sounds fair enough. I'm kinda surprised the government hasn't gotten itself out of marriage for the sole purpose of eliminating marriage bonuses come tax season. Huh, now I got myself wondering if they make more in penalties than they would lose in bonuses.
Well said dear pear.
This is definitely the best argument I've heard for gay marriage to date.
I CAN believe it's still a big deal, because there are so many frightened people out there. Afraid of change, afraid of god, afraid of OTHERNESS.
@Grtt - Divorce is where the money's at.
@QuantumStorm - Really? For the gubment? (That's a genuine question, not my usual sarcasm.) My tax knowledge consists of watching my husfriend fill out the forms for me. Thank goodness that's all it consists of.
@Grtt - Well, when divorce settlements occur, the two parties have lawyers to represent them. Those lawyers get paid and can also receive a portion of the settlement money as compensation for their services. Thus it's in a lawyer's best interest to milk the other side for all its worth. And then when payouts occur, the gov't steps in with taxes and fees.
Then those same lawyers will often go on to serve as judges themselves, perpetuating the cycle.
@QuantumStorm - Ah, yeah. Gotcha.
If marriage is a business contract, then I don't want to get married.
@Grtt - This is why, while I have no problem with gays wanting to get married, I have to laugh a little at their desire to have it legally incorporated into the existing marriage system. It's like, "Dude, have you SEEN the shit that goes on in family courts? Why do you think even I'M not getting married?" hahaha
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By "gay marriage is for everyone" do you mean to make it compulsory? If so, would you be so kind as to let me know if you ever gain the throne? I'd then take the next pear boat to Canadaland.
Don't let them define or regulate your marriage. If you don't want the state involved, how about you go to your local church/temple/mosque/basement, have your favourite holy person/parental figure pronounce you married, and be done with it. If you don't want the state involved in your relationship, don't invite them in. It's as simple as that.
^^^This.
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Forget gays, they deserve the same legal rights as everyone else. Lets talk about celebrities, they are the ones shitting all over the marriage ideas with their rushed marriages and divorces.
Marriage is meant to be between one man and one woman.
And one dog. Where would we be without dogs? And one parakeet. And one hairdresser.